Why isnt shuffle people working

Exporting your playlists to another platform is easy and shifting to another platform MIGHT eventually get Spotify's attention, even they no longer have you as a paying customer You can read more about how your feedback reaches Spotify here.

Once again - thanks for the feedback, we appreciate it. The new "sort by" feature for the liked songs playlist has been nice as I am actually hearing songs I haven't heard in a while while shuffling. Unfortunately, this is just a band aid as the shuffling is still messed up. I chose to sort my "liked songs" by album name.

All of the tracks were being played from albums that are at the beginning of the alphabet. So a large portion of my library is being neglected. With a library of almost songs, that means thousands of songs are being ignored my guess is around While it is possible that there are financial motivations to crappy shuffling weighted preference for certain songs , there are also scenarios like this one that I don't think have anything to do with playing certain tracks more than others for financial reasons.

This is just broken and if there is a preference to the shuffling for certain individual songs which I believe is the case as well only using a small portion of a user's library to gather tracks to shuffle adds to the problem of hearing the same songs over and over.

Update May I too realize this is a problem. I'm facing this with the web player on Windows 8. Surprised to see this is such an old problem. Ahhhh "self-reinforcing problem" -- now I understand. I've been trying to figure out for years how it's happening. I've got a song playlist, and it's already played a handful of the same songs 3x in the past couple hours.

Spotify's official take on this is "you only believe it's repeating the same songs, but really it's other songs by the same artist. In any case, I've found that adding or deleting a song resets the list of songs it shuffles. So for instance, if I remove a song, suddenly it'll play a song it hasn't played in two years It's funny, you probably discovered their exact formula that they are trained to follow lol. They probably have a training manual with this exact same general guideline for steps to follow.

Customer service works exactly like that. Still a problem. Today I've been hearing Bonobo and Anderson Paak throughout my shuffling multiple times. Since I last posted I've probably added new songs to my library bringing it to over songs and a VERY small fraction of these are songs from these two artists. Why do I get 6 songs from these two artists in the same hour and a half of listening? Bc Shuffle is still broken! FIX IT! YTM thing. On my playlist I use to be able to put onto shuffle mode and different song would be picked after the 1st song and if I did not want the 2nd song after I would go back to the 1st song and play the next one until the 2nd song was something diff now I cant do that it jusy play the same 2nd song after the 1st song and im not happy about this.

I'm also not happy with how much I pay for this i use to pay way less years ago ive being a loyal customer for years now plz make it cheaper as I cant afford this now covid is make my job less hours.

Sorry to hear about that. For the first issue you mentioned, we'd be grateful if you could provide more details about your device and app version. For the cost issue, please speak to our customer care team here and ask if there's something they can do to help out. Hi so before on the playlist I was able to start with one song put it onto random and a different song would come on and if I did not want that 2nd song to play next I would go back to the 1st song and it would pick a new 2nd song now it just pick the same 2nd song no matter what.

So that I can forward my bug report to our devs, could you please confirm your device model, OS and our app version?

Is that running on what Android version ashowl77? Can you also go into your app's settings and check in 'About', which version is it at? Could you please give us more details about what's happening with your shuffle? For example, if I were to try and reproduce this on my side, what steps would I need to take?

I have created playlists. Maybe you have some statistic tool so you can check numbers which tracks from my playlist were played and how often. If you want to reproduce probably you should start playing my playlist, leave it in play mode and after some time maybe day or two check the statistic. Thanks for the feedback Janez Gliha will pass it on!

We're improving our integrations this year MarkOlofsen so please hang in there a bit longer! I know MarkOlofsen we haven't had updates in a while - but they're coming. What OS is that box with? Android TV? Alternatively, what brand of TV do you have? We've got different TV apps planned to be updated this year. But they're different developments with different release dates.

I can cast to tv with chromecast, but i want it connected to app in Ziggo mediabox , so i can play it via myHifi system.

In the meantime, I'll be passing your feedback to our partnerships team to see if they can sort this out with Ziggo. The problem with shuffle not being random is something Deezer already knows 3 years now. I wound up persisting the context and result of every single roll cast so people could see summaries per-game, per-turn, per-user. You clearly don't have much experience with roguelikes. Natsu on July 27, root parent next [—]. I don't know. At this point, I kind of expect an orc with a wand of death on level 1.

Because I couldn't stand it if, after listening to my playlist several times, I could predict the exact order of the songs. That would be extremely boring, personally. Would you ever want the same song to play twice in a row? How about 10 times in a row?

Preferably, no. But even if that was a problem, it would only be an occasional one. The predictable playlist would get on my nerves all the time. I suppose you'll then lecture me on how a random playlist has such undesirable properties. But I would have to disagree. Writing a psuedo-random shuffle mode that doesn't play songs twice in a row or even one that doesn't repeat a single song in your playlist is trivial. The probability of that happening decreases so quickly that it's not a realistic concern.

Incidentally, today I had some song stuck in my head so I just listened to it on repeat for a while. JonnieCache on July 27, parent prev next [—].

People want their expectations and their pattern matching processes to be confounded, and randomness, counterintuitively, will not do that. I think that's right, but stated wrong. But what it does not do is confound them consistently. It's routine for a random order to play the same song twice in near succession "I just heard this yesterday, and I have songs in this thing!

But none of that really gets to the linked article, which is that iTunes was using a fixed shuffle order. ChillyWater on July 27, root parent prev next [—]. You see the same thing when laying tile.

If you have a small field tile with fancy glass accents or whatever, the customer really wants random uniformity, not pure random. That was not his point. He just didn't know shuffling only happens when you activate shuffle mode, so he was getting exactly the same order not just a "good" distribution of artists and albums.

Dylan on July 28, parent prev next [—]. But once those users get through the entire song list they want the order to change. I also recall Steve Jobs explaining in a keynote once that they had made the shuffle feature less random in response to user feedback about not wanting to hear the same song twice in a listening period.

Quote from article: As humans, when we come across random clusters we naturally superimpose a pattern. We instinctively project an order on the chaos. It's part of our psychological make-up.

For example, when the iPod first came out and people started to use the shuffle feature, which plays songs in a random order, many people complained that it didn't work. They said that too often songs from the same album, or the same artist, came up one after another. Yet that's what randomness does - it creates counter-intuitively dense clusters. In response to complaints from users, Apple CEO Steve Jobs changed the programming behind the feature: 'We're making it the shuffle less random to make it feel more random.

Which isn't really random at all. That's the trouble with randomness. I like to say "Random is blotchy". If we mean "uniformly randomly chosen with fully independent choices", smoothness is proof that it's not that sort of random. This comes up surprisingly often. For instance, the mere presence of clusters of some non-communicable disease or something prove diddly. It must be shown that the clusters are unexpectedly large, not merely that they exist. Of course they exist. That's the default presumption.

I remember complaints of the form "My iPod really loves Steely Dan. In other words, each new song now has to be significantly different from what came before Mixing opera, country, and black metal in the same playlist would take some getting used to I solved this problem by creating a smart playlist that only includes songs I haven't heard in X days.

I actually went further and made it include 5-star songs I haven't played in X days, 4-star in X weeks, and 3-star in X months. I hear the songs I like the most, but the constantly updated list prevents the "random" shuffle algorithm from picking the same songs too often.

The top answer is good, but it doesn't explain why iTunes couldn't maintain the seed while skipping forward and back, but reshuffle whenever a new song is selected, or whenever iTunes is restarted, or whenever you switch to a playlist and back, or all the other times you wouldn't expect it to maintain the sort order.

So this still seems like something that Apple could and should really improve on without breaking important functionality. That approach could have some random unintended consequences. I shuffle my playlist and listen to a few tracks. One comes on that I don't like or doesn't match my mood, so I peek at the playlist to find on that does match my mood and double click it to start it playing. Unbeknownst to me, iTunes triggers a reshuffle when I do that, and the very next track to play is the one I was trying to get away from.

The better solution at least from my perspective is to not pretend that shuffle is a setting, but an action. As we know, a bug or junk on an older version of an app can cause unexpected issues or problems.

Furthermore, you can visit the Spotify community site for more information about your ongoing problem with the shuffle feature. Just wondering: is it possible that Spotify is not random to maximise profits. Not all songs incur the same fee to artists, and so it is profitable for spotify to play cheaper songs live versions, lesser known songs or artists more often.

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